R4 Moral Maze on ‘Islamic Terrorism’

Moral Maze

In the wake of last week’s killings in Paris, I was on Radio 4’s Moral Maze programme (it can be heard by clicking on the previous link) this evening on the topic of “Islamic Terrorism” (yes, I don’t like the title either).

Those of you who have listened to Moral Maze previously will know that each guest faces a grilling from two of the four regular panellists. I faced a grilling from Anne McElvoy of the Economist (she was previously at the Evening Standard) and Michael Portillo.

I used the encounter to criticise the nihilists of ISIS and also the Western warmongers who keep insisting on dropping bombs on the people of the Middle East and then expect no response in return.

 

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12 Responses to R4 Moral Maze on ‘Islamic Terrorism’

  1. Ash says:

    Have got time to listen to it at the moment, but did you ask them about the origins of ISIS and as to what there excuse is for there intelligence agencies creating and funding this organisation as well as Al Qaida? All the roads lead back to Rome and its empire.

  2. Beck says:

    You did really well. Programme deteriorated and some unbelievable contributions.

  3. Brendan says:

    I found this quite a depressing episode of the Moral Maze. In my view nursing the victim cum grievance narrative is much more of a threat to the UK than Islamic State’s current military capability. I find it bewildering when some Muslim speakers (for e.g. Mohammad Amin, Taj Hargey, Usama Hasan et el), dare go ‘off message’ they are met with such opprobrium by many of their co-religionists.

    • Ash says:

      I fully agree Brendan My Old Chap, the narrative of the Zionists, and Government funded muppets like Taj Hargey, Mohammed Amin, and Usamah Hassan, is the only one that you should be given Sustenance and Succour.

      (1) We must condemn ISIS … But we must not allow into the discourse the fact that CIA and other western intelligence agenices were responsible for the creation of ISIS. As confirmed by General Wesley Clark in the following Video.. https://youtu.be/ojcoKnTGf4s

      No instead we should hold ordinary law abiding Muslims who have nothing to do it with this organisation or its creation as responsible and villify them demonise them dehumanise them in the media on a daily basis.

      (2) We must condemn Saddam Hussain and other Tyranical regimes in the Muslim world…But we must not allow into the discourse the fact that the America and its allies are the ones who put Saddam and other Tyrannical regimes into Power.

      No instead we should hold ordinary law abiding Muslims who have nothing to do it with Saddam or his fellow tyrants as responsible for his crimes and villify them demonise them dehumanise them in the media on a daily basis.

      (3) We Must condemn Al Qaeda but we must not allow the fact that CIA created Al Qaeda in the first place to Fight the War against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

      No instead we should hold ordinary law abiding Muslims who have nothing to do it with this organisation or its creation as responsible and villify them demonise them dehumanise them in the media on a daily basis.

      (4) We Must condemn Omar Bakri Muhammad and Abu Hamza Al Misary and other British extremists but we must not allow into the discourse, the fact both worked for British intelligence.

      No instead we should hold ordinary law abiding Muslims who have nothing to do with these individuals or there creation as responsible and villify them demonise them dehumanise them in the media on a daily basis.

      (5) We Must Refuse to publish or report the hundred of condemnations by Muslim leaders of Terrorism…. Then Lie to the British Public that Muslims are not doing enough to condemn Terrorism.

      No instead we should hold ordinary law abiding Muslims who have nothing to do with this and villify them demonise them dehumanise them in the media on a daily basis.

      (6) We Must Condemn Radicalisation….But ignore the fact that the biggest cause of radicalisation is the rabid like daily villification, demonisation and dehumanisation that takes place in the fanatical Zionist controlled media…!

      No instead we should hold ordinary law abiding Muslims who have nothing to do with this as responsible and villify them demonise them dehumanise them in the media on a daily basis.

      (7) When the Muslims speak out against the injustice and hypocrisy and double standards…We should respond with…. “In my view nursing the victim cum grievance narrative is much more of a threat to the UK than Islamic State’s current military capability” Unbelievable!

      I have not even got to the 10,000 Massacred in Fallujah…, or British, French, Italian Colonisation of the Middle East. The 1.6 million Algerians alone that were slaughtered in their war of independence. The Theft of the Land of Palestine by… Fanatical European Zionist Refugees…Same Zionists who control the media in the West and cry and villify the refugees coming into Europe. Well Brendan old Chap we can discuss these issues next time. If your game.
      Yes My Dear Old Fellow we are in the Internet age, and voiceless have a voice and the Zionist media cannot suppress it, I am sure it must be depressing and bewildering for you…Thats what we call Detroit Freestyle academics,

      • KMH says:

        Ash, my good fellow,

        Relax, it’s all part of the all knowing, all powerful’s creative expression. Think of it all as a test, if you prefer, then you might find peace and perspective.

        With warmest regards,
        KMH

        • Ash says:

          My Dear Old Chum , I am using the all knowing and all powerful creative expression, used by the Zionist Media, with complete peace and perspective and gently and lovingly blowing it like the seeds of a Dandelion back towards them. Just like this …https://youtu.be/l1XkcYWbq8s

          But you should not become bewildered and depressed my old chap that in the age of the internet we now have a counter narrative, and that the dominant narrative of the Zionist controlled media is no longer so dominant.

          Just think of it as a test if you prefer or a challenge after all what is life without the excitement of varied challenges to overcome. As Helen Keller once said; ““Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all.”

          But do not be disheartened my Dear Old Chum open up your heart and allow the peace and tranquility to enter like the gentle drops of rain descending in the spring time upon blossoms in the orchard nourishing the fragrant fruits that are yet to emerge. Or perhaps you can take a dip in the Stream as the water gently trickles by bringing a soothing calmness and serenity with it.

          As Rumi said: “Love is the water of life,
          jump into this water.”

          With Warm and Loving Regards
          ASH

          And Better Luck Next Time Old Chap.

          .

  4. I always find it rather interesting that when Muslims condemn ISIS they are lauded as brave, but if they also criticise Western warmongering in the region and Israel’s apartheid treatment of the Palestinians they are accused of holding a ‘victim mentality’. Far better to speak the truth to power than bow before the powerful.

  5. KMH says:

    Speaking of ISIS there was an interesting opinion piece in the Guardian yesterday by David Graeber on Turkey’s capability, and reluctance, to shut them down.

  6. Ash says:

    For the benefit of Muslims, tired and fed up with the Islamaphobic media, constantly asking muslims to apologise for attrocities they had nothing to do with. Watch the following hilarious video on this an Apology Experiment carried out by some teenagers in response to Rupert Murdoch. … https://youtu.be/UgAx5yC7ELM

  7. Ash says:

    From the highly acclaimed series TED Lectures..Here is an interesting lecture by investigative journalist Trevor Aaronson as to how the so called
    “Islamic Terrorism” is in vast majority of cases “FBI Terrorism”. Real life cases of how the FBI
    used Agent Provacateurs to radicalise people with mental health problems and other issues. They then encouraged them, and helped them plan Terrorist attacks ….. investigative journalist Trevor Aaronson on how the FBI creates agent provocateurs youtu.be/SGG97dDfZ7E

  8. Ash says:

    Apologies here is link to the lecture by Trevor Aaronson https://youtu.be/9pcixUFAJkQ

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